Comments on: A Manifesto by John Shelby Spong http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91 Author and Activist Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:05:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sturgeon fishing http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-2351 sturgeon fishing Thu, 20 May 2010 04:19:44 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-2351 Thank you for the sensible critique. Me & my neighbour were preparing to do some research about that. We got a good book on that matter from our local library and most books where not as influensive as your information. I am very glad to see such information which I was searching for a long time. Thank you for the sensible critique. Me & my neighbour were preparing to do some research about that. We got a good book on that matter from our local library and most books where not as influensive as your information. I am very glad to see such information which I was searching for a long time.

]]> By: umbilical cord blood http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-2265 umbilical cord blood Wed, 12 May 2010 03:08:14 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-2265 I really enjoy your blog I really enjoy your blog

]]> By: Gerald Garvan http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-1662 Gerald Garvan Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:49:34 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-1662 I don't get it. Sprong has spent a great deal of his life striping the old Roman toga from the dogma of biblical understanding, but he has refused to touch the most distorted teaching in the Christian community. Sprong says that men should love wastefully and abundantly, and that love should be like water, flowing everywhere regardless. He has bought into the idea, and defends the idea, that God love is available to all unconditionally, and as White says about himself, unreservedly. That idea that God's love is unconditional, unreserved, is one of the biggest distortions to ever come from the mouth of theologians who were suppose to know and teach the truth. God's love has never been unconditional, unreserved, never is, and never will be. There has always been a condition and there always will be. That condition to receive God's focused attention, power, and love, is and always has been, the covenant God offers to all men. No one can claim the love of God without accepting, and abiding obediently, in a covenant relationship with God. If Sprong, White, or any one else does not know the conditions of that covenant, there is nothing they can assume about God as being theirs. But, Sprong and those who follow him will never have what God has to offer. They have rejected God and created their own god. But that is nothing new. Sprong is a man knowledgeable in the history of the church, he know that this is not the first time. I don’t get it. Sprong has spent a great deal of his life striping the old Roman toga from the dogma of biblical understanding, but he has refused to touch the most distorted teaching in the Christian community. Sprong says that men should love wastefully and abundantly, and that love should be like water, flowing everywhere regardless. He has bought into the idea, and defends the idea, that God love is available to all unconditionally, and as White says about himself, unreservedly.
That idea that God’s love is unconditional, unreserved, is one of the biggest distortions to ever come from the mouth of theologians who were suppose to know and teach the truth. God’s love has never been unconditional, unreserved, never is, and never will be. There has always been a condition and there always will be. That condition to receive God’s focused attention, power, and love, is and always has been, the covenant God offers to all men. No one can claim the love of God without accepting, and abiding obediently, in a covenant relationship with God.
If Sprong, White, or any one else does not know the conditions of that covenant, there is nothing they can assume about God as being theirs.
But, Sprong and those who follow him will never have what God has to offer. They have rejected God and created their own god. But that is nothing new. Sprong is a man knowledgeable in the history of the church, he know that this is not the first time.

]]> By: Rev. Christine Retherford http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-1430 Rev. Christine Retherford Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:42:56 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-1430 Dear Bishop Spong & Mel, Thank you for writing this manifesto & posting it here. It reminded me of a saying on my Soulforce t-shirt from Cleveland in 2000: The Debate Must End. The manifesto is very articulate in that it says what you will and will not do without attacking other faiths. For me, the most important piece is not giving equal media time to both "sides". You are absolutely right: today we would not permit this for segregation or women's voting rights. Thank you for being the brave visionary God has called you to be. Peace & Love, Christine Dear Bishop Spong & Mel,

Thank you for writing this manifesto & posting it here. It reminded me of a saying on my Soulforce t-shirt from Cleveland in 2000: The Debate Must End. The manifesto is very articulate in that it says what you will and will not do without attacking other faiths. For me, the most important piece is not giving equal media time to both “sides”. You are absolutely right: today we would not permit this for segregation or women’s voting rights.

Thank you for being the brave visionary God has called you to be.

Peace & Love,
Christine

]]> By: chris callaway http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-977 chris callaway Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:24:21 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-977 Where is your courage in taking on Islam? Countries mired in this religion are the one who are responsible for execution of gays. Isn't is so much more politically correct (and safer) to attack fundamentalist Christians? Where is your courage in taking on Islam? Countries mired in this religion are the one who are responsible for execution of gays. Isn’t is so much more politically correct (and safer) to attack fundamentalist Christians?

]]> By: Mel White http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-503 Mel White Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:37:24 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-503 Axel, I am so glad you stumbled across my website. It is always such a reassuring blessing to know that God still works to send us peace in this life. If you have the time, check out soulforce.org I think there you will find even more answers to the questions you are seeking out. Peace and luck my new friend, Mel Axel,
I am so glad you stumbled across my website. It is always such a reassuring blessing to know that God still works to send us peace in this life.

If you have the time, check out soulforce.org
I think there you will find even more answers to the questions you are seeking out.
Peace and luck my new friend,
Mel

]]> By: Axel http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-482 Axel Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:31:04 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-482 I found this manifesto and this site by accident. Maybe God lead me to it. Thank you so much for posting this. I feel like there is hope in my life again. I found this manifesto and this site by accident. Maybe God lead me to it. Thank you so much for posting this. I feel like there is hope in my life again.

]]> By: Donna Monson http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-424 Donna Monson Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:16:36 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-424 Wow - everything I've truly felt and not been able to vocalize/verbalize for some reason. He's so right! In every day discussions about trivial matters, we say things like "I'm not even going to justify that statement with a response." And yet, with issues as fundamental as equality for ALL, and basic human rights, we've been engaging with people who make 'arguments' that shouldn't even be justified with responses. I absolutely love this Manifesto, and I plan to pass this link along. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! Wow – everything I’ve truly felt and not been able to vocalize/verbalize for some reason. He’s so right! In every day discussions about trivial matters, we say things like “I’m not even going to justify that statement with a response.” And yet, with issues as fundamental as equality for ALL, and basic human rights, we’ve been engaging with people who make ‘arguments’ that shouldn’t even be justified with responses. I absolutely love this Manifesto, and I plan to pass this link along. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

]]> By: Brendan http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-387 Brendan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:16:02 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-387 HALLELUJAH! And if they tell us to be quiet, even the stones will cry out! HALLELUJAH!
And if they tell us to be quiet, even the stones will cry out!

]]> By: Kjersten Gmeiner http://www.melwhite.org/blog/91/comment-page-1#comment-346 Kjersten Gmeiner Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:41:00 +0000 http://www.melwhite.org/blog/?p=91#comment-346 HUZZAH! HUZZAH!

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